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  437. <h1>
  438. <span><a id="jumper" href="#jumpto" title="Un peu perdu ?">?</a></span>
  439. Electron considered harmful (archive)
  440. <time>Pour la pérennité des contenus liés. Non-indexé, retrait sur simple email.</time>
  441. </h1>
  442. <section>
  443. <article>
  444. <h3><a href="https://drewdevault.com/2016/11/24/Electron-considered-harmful.html">Source originale du contenu</a></h3>
  445. <p>Yeah, I know that “considered harmful” essays are allegedly <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/comment/chech.html">considered
  446. harmful</a>. If it surprises you that
  447. I’m writing one, though, you must be a new reader. Welcome! Let’s get started.
  448. If you’re unfamiliar with Electron, it’s some hot new tech that lets you make
  449. desktop applications with HTML+CSS+JavaScript. It’s basically a chromeless web
  450. browser with a Node.js backend and a Chromium-based frontend. What follows is
  451. the rant of a pissed off Unix hacker, you’ve been warned.</p>
  452. <p>As software engineers we have a responsibility to pick the <em>right</em> tools for the
  453. job. In fact, that’s the <em>most important</em> choice we have to make when we start a
  454. project. When you choose Electron you get:</p>
  455. <ul>
  456. <li>An entire copy of Chromium you’ll be shipping with your app</li>
  457. <li>An interface that looks and feels nothing like the rest of the user’s OS</li>
  458. <li>One of the slowest, least memory efficient, and most inelegant GUI application
  459. platforms out there (remember, we <em>tolerate</em> frontend web development because
  460. we have no choice, not because it is by any means <em>good</em>)</li>
  461. </ul>
  462. <p>Let’s go over some case studies.</p>
  463. <p><strong><a href="https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut">lossless-cut</a></strong> is an Electron app that
  464. gives you a graphical UI for <em>two ffmpeg flags</em>. Seriously, the flags in
  465. question are -ss and -t. No really, that’s <em><a href="https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/blob/master/src/ffmpeg.js#L46">literally all it
  466. does</a></em>. It
  467. doesn’t even use ffmpeg to decode the video preview in the app, it’s limited to
  468. the codecs chromium supports. It also ships its own ffmpeg, so it has the
  469. industry standard video decoding tool <em>right there</em> and doesn’t use it to render
  470. video. For the price of 200 extra MiB of disk space and an entire Chromium process
  471. in RAM and on your CPU, you get a less capable GUI that saves you from having to
  472. type the -ss and -t flags yourself.</p>
  473. <p><strong><a href="http://1clipboard.io/">1Clipboard</a></strong> is a clipboard manager. In Electron. A
  474. <em>clipboard manager</em>. In order to show you <em>a list of things you’ve copied</em>, it
  475. uses <em>an entire bundled copy of Chromium</em>. Also note that despite the promises
  476. of Electron making cross platform development easy, it doesn’t support Linux.</p>
  477. <p><strong><a href="https://getcollectie.com/">Collectie</a></strong> is a… fancy bookmark manager, I
  478. guess? Another one that fails to get the cross platform value add from Electron,
  479. this only supports OS X (or is it macOS). For only $10 bucks you get to organize
  480. your shit into folders. Or you could just open the Finder for free and get a
  481. native UX to boot.</p>
  482. <p>This is a <a href="https://hyper.is/">terminal</a> written with Electron. On the landing
  483. page they say “# A terminal emulator 100% based on JavaScript, HTML, and CSS”
  484. like they’re proud of it. They’ve taken one of the most lightweight and
  485. essential tools on your computer and bloated it by orders of magnitude. Why the
  486. fuck would you want to render Google in your god damn terminal emulator? Bonus:
  487. also not cross platform.</p>
  488. <p>This is not to mention the dozens of companies that have taken their websites
  489. and crammed them into a shitty electron app and called it their desktop app.
  490. Come on guys!</p>
  491. <p>By the way, if you’re the guy who’s going to leave a comment about how this blog
  492. post introduced you to a bunch of interesting apps you’re going to install now,
  493. I hate you.</p>
  494. <h2 id="electron-enables-lazy-developers-to-write-garbage">Electron enables lazy developers to write garbage</h2>
  495. <p>Let me be clear about this: JavaScript sucks. It’s not the worst, but it’s also
  496. not by any means good. ES6 is a really great step forward and I’m thrilled about
  497. how much easier it’s going to be to write JavaScript, but it’s still JavaScript
  498. underneath the syntactic sugar. We use it because we have no choice (people who
  499. know more than just JavaScript know this). The object model is whack and the
  500. loose typing is whack and the DOM is super whack.</p>
  501. <p>When Node.js happened, a bunch of developers who never bothered to learn more
  502. than JavaScript for their frontend work suddenly could write their crappy code
  503. on the backend, too. Now this is happening to desktop applications. The reason
  504. people choose Electron is because they are <em>too lazy</em> to learn the right tools
  505. for the job. This is the <em>worst</em> quality a developer can have. You’re an
  506. engineer, for the love of God! Fucking act like one! Do they build square
  507. airplanes so they don’t have to learn about aerodynamics, then just throw on an
  508. extra ten engines to make up for it? NO!</p>
  509. <p>For the love of God, learn something else. Learn how to use GTK or Qt. Maybe Xwt
  510. is more up your alley. How about GNOME’s Vala thing? <em>Learn another programming
  511. language</em>. Learn Python or C/C++ or C#. Fun fact: it’ll make your JavaScript
  512. better, and once you have it in your toolbox you can make more educated
  513. decisions on the appropriate tool to use when you face your next problem. Hint:
  514. it’s not Electron.</p>
  515. <h2 id="some-electron-apps-dont-suck">Some Electron apps don’t suck</h2>
  516. <p>For some use-cases Electron is a reasonable choice.</p>
  517. <ul>
  518. <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">Visual Studio Code</a>, because it’s a full
  519. blown IDE with a debugger and plugins and more. It’s already gonna be
  520. bloated.</li>
  521. <li><a href="https://www.gitkraken.com/">GitKraken</a>, because HTML is a decent interface for
  522. rendering the sorts of visualizations git needs</li>
  523. <li><a href="http://www.soundnodeapp.com/">Soundnode</a>, because it’s not like any other
  524. music service’s app obeys your OS’s UI conventions</li>
  525. <li><a href="https://www.nylas.com/">Nylas</a> but for the love of god don’t use it to send
  526. <a href="/2016/04/11/Please-use-text-plain-for-emails.html">HTML emails</a></li>
  527. </ul>
  528. <p>Uh, that’s it. That’s the entire list.</p>
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  544. Si tu as apprécié cette lecture, n’hésite pas à poursuivre ton exploration. Par exemple via les <a href="/david/blog/" title="Expériences bienveillantes">réflexions bimestrielles</a>, la <a href="/david/stream/2019/" title="Pensées (dés)articulées">veille hebdomadaire</a> ou en t’abonnant au <a href="/david/log/" title="S’abonner aux publications via RSS">flux RSS</a> (<a href="/david/blog/2019/flux-rss/" title="Tiens c’est quoi un flux RSS ?">so 2005</a>).
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  550. Voici quelques articles choisis :
  551. <a href="/david/blog/2019/faire-equipe/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Faire équipe</a>,
  552. <a href="/david/blog/2018/bivouac-automnal/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Bivouac automnal</a>,
  553. <a href="/david/blog/2018/commodite-effondrement/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Commodité et effondrement</a>,
  554. <a href="/david/blog/2017/donnees-communs/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Des données aux communs</a>,
  555. <a href="/david/blog/2016/accompagner-enfant/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Accompagner un enfant</a>,
  556. <a href="/david/blog/2016/senior-developer/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Senior developer</a>,
  557. <a href="/david/blog/2016/illusion-sociale/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">L’illusion sociale</a>,
  558. <a href="/david/blog/2016/instantane-scopyleft/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Instantané Scopyleft</a>,
  559. <a href="/david/blog/2016/enseigner-web/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Enseigner le Web</a>,
  560. <a href="/david/blog/2016/simplicite-defaut/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Simplicité par défaut</a>,
  561. <a href="/david/blog/2016/minimalisme-esthetique/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Minimalisme et esthétique</a>,
  562. <a href="/david/blog/2014/un-web-omni-present/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Un web omni-présent</a>,
  563. <a href="/david/blog/2014/manifeste-developpeur/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Manifeste de développeur</a>,
  564. <a href="/david/blog/2013/confort-convivialite/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Confort et convivialité</a>,
  565. <a href="/david/blog/2013/testament-numerique/" title="Accéder à l’article complet">Testament numérique</a>,
  566. et <a href="/david/blog/" title="Accéder aux archives">bien d’autres…</a>
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